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Friday, November 04, 2005

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azeris are of course not persian, infact they are of turanid-turkic descent and have distinctively different features when compared to persians- farsi descended populations. for example most of the kurds and persians have real dark skin resulting 11 and more in luschan scale and mostly are dolicocephalic. turkic populations in contrary mostly have dark hair-eyes accompanied with occasional light skin & bracycephaly (a progressive trait). irano afghan race infact is subrace under mediterranean-caucasoid category. the same subrace(w/o dravidic elements unlike in iran) overrun by alpine populations have resulted in the hyper bracycephalic light skinned hook nosed armenoid type common among some armenians, minor in eastern anatolian turks(planoccupitalism never occurs in these cases) and mostly among ashkenazi jews. the irano-afghan type itself is very common among sepharadic jews and unmixed arabs of yemen and whole saudi peninsula. there are theories that nordic populations have also descended from these dark caucasians(irano-afghan) of iranian plateau and got depigmented along the migrations northwards but this can be refuted by the scientific fact the whole trans-iranian plateua could never support such a stream of population. what we can easily detect is that the whole iranian plateau which was once populated by mediterranean populations were first invaded by small numbers of nordic invaders originationg from transoxania whom imposed their warrior-aryan legacy and language over the native populations(a good percentage of mixtures have occured as can be seen from the pictures of the exotic indo european speakers such with extreme dark skin, long faces and light eyes (ie farsi, mzandarani, lori, gilaki, northern indians, kashmiris, kurds, gypsies etc) iran then was subsequently overrun by turkic populations in the north and a strong dravidic influence among all iranian populations except azeris(oghuz turks) and northern farsis whom intermixed with turkic or caucasian(alan, sarmatian etc) populations.

persians along with all other middle easterners and southwest asians have a small amount of nordic admixture(so do the gypsies, kashmiris, bengalis, arabs etc). shame on you trying to portray your own people as of european stock instead of cherishing your rich heritage, trying to be whites and insulting turanic people for it. a clear demonstration of inferiority complex.

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Posted by Anonymous to Persians and Hollywood at 11/03/2005 04:56:25 PM

I think you misunderstand what Nordic means. You should read my blog on Nordic. Nordic does not mean blond hair. It only defines the dimensions of the skull. According to that, then Persians are nordic. And the history you are describing is mostly imaginary history. But I agree with you that Azeris originate from Turanid-Turks. And they have different racial characteristics from Persians. Persians want to be portrayed as Persians and not as Turks or Arabs. That is what this blog is about. Otherwise Persians have very good relation with all central Asian and Anatolian Turks and Azeri Turks. Here is the definition of Nordic-Iranian:

The Nordic-Iranian type D1 lies between Anglo-Saxon and Keltic area norms, and D2 is the earlier pre-Bronze Age Corded form which Coon identifies. Type D3, lighter and more hawk-nosed, is transitional to the Mediterranean type B4 and to type D4 (Iranian), which is the Proto-Iranian of Vallois, Irano-Afghan of others, and Proto-Nordic of Krogman, and which is more linear and more rugged than D3 and has a more tilted chewing plane, more nasal convexity, and deeper occiput. Type D5 approximates Coon's Danubian-Halstatt and successor Central European forms.

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At 11:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Azeris are not Iranians they are Turks. Yes they were once Iranic people but due to asimilation process they are now what they are. The same is let's say for iother ethnicities: most of arabs in norts africa a decendants of berbers but they concider themselves arabs not berbers, most germans in eastern germany are decendants of slavs but they concider themselves germans.

Nowadays for most of Iranians who fear that they state might collapse because of Azerbaijanis willingness to rebuild historical justice and to create independent state, iranians create lots of myts claiming that azeris feel themselves iranians.

So what? Let they think in the same way if they feel so confident :D The truth will never be perished!

 
At 1:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi, I am an azeri girl.
first I should say I dont have a hooked nose! actually i am blond haired and really whit, like european. but it dosnt an important thing. thanks God i am a an azeri. I love my cultures, traditions, my language and my people. may be it would be worh to mention that azeri people are the most hardworking peole as all of iranians assure. they always creat proud for all iranians.
it is not important what is your ones race. I think it is theirs brain and morality which make proud.
wether azei people are turk or arian desnt make difference . we are always honor our nation and honor other ethnics.
Mrs i think you are not on the that position to express such oponions. it is not your business!
and all nations worth to assure and there is no difference between races like black and white.

 
At 8:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Azeris are not Turks. I suggest some of you read more and say less. Some of you have tried to substantiate your claims with buzzwords or jargon you clearly know little about. Iranians of today are an admixture of different ethnic groups but, as can evidently be seen by looking at Azeris, they appear more Nordic-Iranian than some, if not most, Iranians. For your information, there is no "pure race" anywhere in the world today. All people are of mixed race. Classifications such as black, caucasian, hispanic, asian, etc., are there to create order out of chaos. Be that as it may, Iranians in the know should hold their heads up high for they belong to a country that was once governed by some of the greatest kings such as Cyrus, Darius and Xerxes who ruled an empire of over 2 million square miles that encompassed a rich diversity of peoples and cultures. Azeris are not Turanian/Turan-Turks, they only speak a dialect of Turkish. They once spoke Persian/Parsi like the rest of the Iranians. When are you people ever going to properly educate yourselves? I am a caucasian/aryan and proud of it. I am what I am: no one can take my "identity" away from me. I embrace people of different races and ethnicities but I will not accept that I am anything other than an aryan/caucasian just because ill-informed Iranians wish me to believe otherwise. I am white and I look white. I cannot change the color of my skin just because certain Iranians would rather the rest of us call ourselves Middle Easterners. We are not Arabs and we certainly are not Middle Eastern. Incidentally, the term "Middle East" was devised by the Anglo-Saxons. Western pressure has always prevailed. They want us to believe we are a barbaric race of non-whites and what do some of us do? Some of us sheepishly accept what is doled out at us. The truth is what I am in search of always. I refuse to tolerate flagrant lies and petty-mindedness. Some of you Iranians may choose to consider yourselves to be of Arabic and/or Turkic decent - that is entirely up to you but do not knock down other Iranians and Azerbaijani-Iranians because you are divided in your thoughts, deeds and words to the rest of us proud-to-be-white Iranians. We do not suffer from an inferiority complex, we are merely acceptant of who we are. Why don't you learn a thing or two from the Greeks and the Afghanis? They are a united band of people who are proud of their culture, history and heritage. Strength comes in numbers - remember? No wonder our country is run by backward ignoramuses. Apparently, some of us deserve to have our beautiful homeland, our "identity", stolen from us under our very noses.

 

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